As the American society becomes increasingly polarized on politics, racial justice, abortion, gun rights, public education, and free speech on social media, this is a book we can all benefit from reading. You can benefit even more by discussing the book with a group.
The book Iโm referring to is the Third Edition of L.E.A.P.F.R.O.G.: How to hold a civil conversation in an uncivil era, by Janet Givens. Ms. Givens is a sociologist and Gestalt psychotherapist.
Although my opening paragraph referred to the polarization of America, this book is intended to help people have any difficult conversation, whether itโs a disagreement youโve had with your spouse or co-worker, a difference of opinion over a belief with a fellow church member, a conversation you need to have with a family member in the grips of substance abuse, or an honest discussion you want to have about a larger issue with a group, this book will help you get there.
How I learned about the book
Janet Givens and I had connected through our blogs. I was pleased last year when she invited me to participate in a Zoom group to read and discuss an earlier edition of the book. It was a small group โ Ms. Givens, six others from across the United States, and me.
Ms. Givens told us up front that she wanted to make some changes in the book and publish a new edition. She wanted our input. It was a wonderful experience to be in such a group. We bonded through our monthly virtual meetings and I miss them now that the purpose that brought us together is completed.
In appreciation for our involvement, Ms. Givens sent each of us a copy of this yearโs new edition. Iโve neglected to follow up with a review of the book for several months, for which Iโm embarrassed. The best excuse I can concoct is that life and numerous library book due dates I was up against constantly took my attention away from L.E.A.P.F.R.O.G. Itโs a poor excuse. I apologize, Janet. (By the way, I was known as โthe other Janetโ in the small group of eight.)
New introduction
This Third Edition of L.E.A.P.F.R.O.G.: How to hold a civil conversation in an uncivil era has a completely new introduction. Sometimes Iโm tempted to skip a bookโs introduction, but please be sure to read this one. Youโll learn why Ms. Givens wrote the book, how she envisioned it being used, and she asks several questions for you to consider before launching into the meat of the book.
It used to be Americans could agree to disagree with each other over various issues, but that has become the exception rather than the rule. In this โuncivil eraโ it can seem impossible to civilly discuss issues with someone with whom you hold differing views.
Thatโs the backdrop for the book. The title is an acronym for Listening, Empathy, Assessment, Perspective, Facts: Forget them for now; Respect, Observation, and Gratitude. Each of those gets its own chapter. The chapters should be read in order for it is in that order in which one should approach any โdifficult conversation.โ
Ms. Givens is quick to point out in the introduction that one shouldnโt go into such a conversation with the purpose of converting the other person to their way of thinking. Something our Zoom group discussed on several occasions was the need for both/all parties discussing a difficult or divisive topic to be genuinely curious about why the other person has an opinion not like their own.
In her acknowledgements at the back of the book, Ms. Givens indicated that the Zoom group was instrumental in the birth of her โPerspectiveโ chapter and in the reworking of the โRespectโ chapter. Letโs look at those chapters.
Perspective
The fourth chapter in the earlier editions of the book was titled โParaphrase.โ Readers were encouraged to listen to the other person with empathy, assess their own state of mind to make sure they were mentally in the right place to have the conversation, and then paraphrase what they thought they heard the other person say.
In this new edition, Ms. Givens replaced โParaphraseโ with โPerspective.โ (Youโll also notice in earlier editions most of the chapter titles were action words like Listen, Empathize, Assess, Paraphrase, and Observe. The new chapter titles are mostly nouns, such as Listening, Empathy, Assessment, Perspective, Facts: Forget them for now, Respect, Observation, and Gratitude.) Theyโre presented more as concepts instead of calls to action.
In the โPerspectiveโ chapter, Ms. Givens invites us to think about perspective โ ours and the other personโs. In doing that we will probably listen more carefully to the other person and maybe see the other personโs perspective. I might not change my mind by listening to your perspective, but I might gain a level of understanding of why you think what you think and even a clearer understanding of my own thinking.
The โPerspectiveโ chapter also addresses unconscious bias. For instance, an experience we had in childhood can affect how we see an issue today. You donโt need to use that as an excuse though. Once we recognize a bias, we can change.
Respect
In the reworked โRespectโ chapter, Ms. Givens enlightens the reader to think of respect as something each individual deserves because thatโs the foundation of society. Respect isnโt something to be meted out after weโve judged the other person.
She addresses โotheringโ โ the โus versus themโ mindset. One way to move toward genuinely respecting the other person is to tell them you hear them and you think you understand. Then, look for what you have in common. Find something positive to say.
A call to action
I hope my blog post today will prompt you to look for L.E.A.P.F.R.O.G.: How to hold a civil conversation in an uncivil era, Third Edition wherever you purchase books. You can also order it from the author at https://janetgivens.com/. I also recommend that you request that your local public library system purchases the book. Ask for it at your local independent bookstore if you donโt see it on the shelf.
Rare is the person who canโt benefit from reading it. Putting into practice the ideas Ms. Givens presents in her book will surely result in a more civil exchange of ideas within the United States or wherever you live โ even if itโs just one person at a time.
Since my last blog post
I was struggling with a short story I was writing. It just wasnโt coming together. I did some brainstorming and the pieces finally felt into place. I hope to self-publish a collection of my historical short stories. Iโll keep you posted on my progress on that project.
Iโve completed my work to-date on two branches in my family tree. My sister helped me figure out these two lines. Both lines had some squirrelly dates and connections. Weโre more than ready to move on to another family line and hope for less confusion!
Work has slowed on our The Aunts in the Kitchen family cookbook. I keep procrastinating getting the photograph made for the cover of the e-book. I canโt make it myself.
Our computer guy came and got our margins corrected in Word. Itโs frustrating for a writer to not be able to set one-inch margins, especially since thatโs the default setting. Iโm back in business now typing my short stories and formatting them in Word ready to download into Atticus. Iโm a happy camper once again!
Iโm trying to participate on Twitter again, with limited success. If youโd like to follow me, Iโm @janetmorrisonbk. (Think Janet Morrison book.) Just donโt expect me to Tweet every day or comment on what you post in a timely manner. Iโm terrible at social media.
Until my next blog post
I hope you have a good book to read or listen to. Iโm reading The Librarian Spy: A Novel of World War II, by Madeline Martin and Booth, by Karen Joy Fowler. I have other books checked out and two more ready to be picked up at the library. I canโt read fast enough!
Life is short. Spend time with family and friends, and make time for a hobby.
Donโt forget the people of Ukraine, Uvalde, and Highland Park, etc. and the people in Kentucky whose lives have been turned upside down by flooding.
Janet


Does the Givens book address the fact that the first step in having a civil conversation is the desire to have civil conversation?
Your collection of historical short stories sounds interesting. In what time period are they set?
This is a very interesting and most important post. I would say that the most important thing people can have in any society is respect, tolerance and God willing, love. Lovely words, so very well put. All the best from Spain.
Francis
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Thanks for the recommendation for the civil conversations book. Our family is split down political lines – I’ll need to read that!
My family is, too, Rebecca. It’s very difficult!
Thank you, Laleh.
Thank you, Francis. I agree with you. All my best from North Carolina!
Yes, it does, Liz. I should have pointed that out. Just about every month in our Zoom meetings, we came back around to the fact that unless both/all parties to the conversation genuinely wanted to have the conversation, it was likely to accomplish little or nothing.
I’m working on historical short stories from several periods in American history. I’d like to write around six stories from each era and publish them separately as inexpensive e-books to start getting my name out there. My favorite era is the colonial/Revolutionary War years. I’ll have to see how things develop. I tend to be overly ambitious. Then again, some days I think it would be better to have stories from various time periods in each book. People interested in colonial/Revolutionary War years might purchase that book, but might not be moved to purchase one about the Civil War years or Turn of the 20th Century, etc. I’d love to hear what you think, since you’re a published author.
Youโre very welcome Janet. Have a great week, and all the best!
Youโre very welcome Janet. Have a great week and all the best!
Thank you for the Leapfrog clarification, Janet. You’ve definitely piqued my interest in your short story collection.